Here at Dabble we're shopping for decent CRM. Seems like there are only really three options out there - Salesforce, SugarCRM, and Entellium. (Forget Siebel.)
We all know trusty, dusty Salesforce. It has issues, but it gets the job done. And the sales guys there are top notch. The community is also nice to have around, though most in it want to be paid. Given that Sugar is, well, free, it has a certain appeal to a cash-deprived start up, too, especially as we're a software company and wouldn't have too much trouble managing our own instance, rather than using the hosted Salesforce-style operation. So far, fairly straightforward. But then there's Entellium.
Entellium is harder to pin down. Their website is downright awful. A complete waste of everyone's time and money. It teaches a prospective customer nothing, and would be better if it were simply a blank page with their logo and an 800 number.
Wanting to make a good decision, I went out of my way to call them and set up a demo. Someone (I forget now who, exactly) said that the product was the best of the three. We scheduled a time, and then they screwed it up and we had to reset a time because they wrote it down wrong. Then someone else called or emailed to "schedule" the already scheduled demo, later last week. Then this morning, the morning of the scheduled demo, an entelium "consultant", Lee, woke me up at 7:30AM on my cell phone to schedule the same demo for a third time, and sent an email asking me what I needed CRM for - and inspired me to cancel the demo and never speak with them again. I wondered as I lay in bed at 7:31 if entellium even used CRM. They must not.
Anyway, I reprint the email exchange below because it's a fantastic read. Seriously. Who trains these salespeople? If I wasn't so totally blase about this and their miserable company I'd put some effort into getting Lee fired - along with whoever trained him, whoever manages him and probably the VP of Sales and Marketing, as well, who must be totally incompetent. Apart from wondering whether entellium uses CRM in its own sales process, the whole experience also made me wonder: did the ex-VP of Marketing at Friendster end up at entellium?
Feel free to email your thoughts directly to Lee, by the way. And, it makes more sense if you read bottom-up.
From: Sang-Do Lee
[mailto:lee@entellium.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:51 AM
To: alex@dabble.com
Subject: RE: Entellium CRM Demonstration
Dear
Alex,
Apologies
for the misunderstandings. The number you gave us from the initial phone
in was your mobile number. Going forward, please specify the correct
number to reach you, not only with us but anyone else your prospecting
with. 7:30AM? Most successful business that we talk to are up and
running at 6AM, M-F, and connected to an office land line. Sincere
apologies again.
As
requested, I will take you off our database. However, I would like to
give you the benefit of the doubt and if you can do the same for me to start
over. I truly would like to help you find exactly what you are looking
for in a CRM.
If
no response from this email, you will no longer be contacted,
Sincerely,
Lee
Sang-Do Lee | CRM Consultant
206.245.2327
- Phone
lee@entellium.com
206.262.9554
- Fax
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From: Alex Shartsis [mailto:alex@dabble.com
]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:08 AM
To: Sang-Do Lee
Subject: RE: Entellium CRM Demonstration
You
really, really need to work on your own sales process. Do you know you called
my cell phone at 7:30 in the morning today?
Forget
about the demo. We already scheduled it – twice – for the same time. It’s
ridiculous that you’re asking me to schedule it again. Does your company even
use CRM software? I’ve also answered your questions below already, on my first
phone call. I’m so unimpressed with your company that I find it hard to believe
you have any idea what CRM software looks like.
Please
delete all of my information and my company’s information from your database,
and never contact us again.
Sincerely,
Alex
___________________________________
Head
of Business Development
alex@dabble.com
From: Sang-Do Lee
[mailto:lee@entellium.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:38 AM
To: alex@dabble.com
Subject: Entellium CRM Demonstration
Dear Alex,
Hope your having a great day! I am
following up to the voice that I just left and your request to schedule a
personalized demo. Please budget one hour and let me know when would be a
great time and date for you. My contact is below.
Also, what are your Top 3 CRM needs?
1.
2.
3.
Thank you!
Best Regards,
Sincerely,
Lee | CRM Consultant
206.245.2327 -
Phone
lee@entellium.com
206.262.9554 -
Fax
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